WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



whufcroe 12:20 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
Sven - That's not clubs want as they know the money and interest wouldn't last

Dr W.H.O. 12:15 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
If they left to form a Super League it should be a one way door. Agreed Stubbo. It would die in its arse. Clubs like Chelsea are built on sand.

Sven Roeder 12:12 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
The goal will be a league structure that allows the BIG teams to play each other more often without the threat of elimination.
And guaranteed places for the big teams from their MATES if the unthinkable happens and they don't qualify every year.

whufcroe 12:12 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
The fan base thing is a red herring, big Italian clubs don't have the world wide appear of English or Spanish sides for example.

Man City had a small global fan base until they started winning, ditto Chelsea and Liverpool have missed out plenty in recent time without it effecting the CL.

IF the likes of West Ham and Tottenham maintain their good form then the fan bases will grow as these worldwide fans on the whole are fickle.

ludo21 12:12 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
Money, money, money....

If we qualify for the CL we should just say to UEFA & Man Utd - how much will you pay us for us to let Man Utd take our place - what for the 40m offer and then just laugh in their greedy fat faces... I think that would get the message across.

Who gives a fuck what Asia and the US want... they won't be content until they have completely fucked the whole thing up.

Stubbo 12:09 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
I'd actually like to see this European Super League come into effect and take out these teams that have delusions of grandeur.

It would soon become a non-entity, and the plastic fans at Chelsea, Man Utd etc would soon tire of their sides finishing mid-table to lower half every year, while Barca, Real Madrid, and Munich fight out a 3 team battle.

Would mean no away fans, no real derbies, none of that 'niggle' that defines football.

They would deserve all they got in the search for money.

In the meantime the real football would continue to be the domestic league. Wouldn't take long for these idiots to want back in.

Stubbo 12:05 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
Personally I think more knockout rounds and less league rounds would be a good thing.

What is debatable here is the motivation for change.

As for Wild Card entries - how ridiculous. Sport is an evolving entity, with teams time at the top coming and going.

Most of this probably lobbying from TV companies saying "how are we meant to sell premium advertising for games that involve Leicester City, Spurs or West Ham?".

The huge money and the contracts are based on the ability of the TV companies to charge premium rates for advertising in lucrative markets, which relies on them having large fan bases for the teams playing in those markets.

None of it makes this right though. Until we grow our global reach and become one of these monolithic global brands, we're going to be lumped in with the Premier League 'also rans', who irrespective of performance on the field just don't do it for these corporate entities that are trying to reach millions of Asian consumers.

riosleftsock 12:05 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
So, when its Atletico vs Leicester in the final, couldn't we just dub over the commentary for the kitchens and say its real madrid vs man utd again?

They might even buy some shirts by mistake.

whufcroe 12:04 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
Lots of people mis-understanding and pissing their pants over this.

The CL changes format every three years and this is what the next change would be.

If Leicester, Tottenham and West Ham finished 1, 2, 3 then they would still be the three teams to progress into the Champions League.

This is to do away with so many game with have no interest mainly in the group stage.

Dr W.H.O. 11:55 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
*hate

Mike Oxsaw 11:54 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
This is clearly driven by the need to keep the Asian market interested.

THE cream of European competitions without the traditional "big" clubs would never sell in Asia - or probably America.

People in general don't like change and so "expect" to see the same names featuring in a competition year in, year out.

Add in the fact that many Asians find pronouncing the names of some of the "lesser" European teams (and so will want to avoid losing face by mispronouncing them), and you have some idea of what's driving this.

Plus, of course, the owners of the traditional big clubs see playing in Europe, and the money that brings, as a divine right, not a privilege that their team has to earn every season.

Dr W.H.O. 11:54 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
Flys in the face of everything sport should represent. Struggling to see how this couldn't open up an endless stream of legal challenges. I want West Ham to be challenging in Europe but would to see us become one of these clubs that Have this sense of entitlement over other clubs. Wankers.

Takashi Miike 11:51 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
they keep moving the goalposts to protect the usual suspects. like I said before, let them fuck off to their European Super League Boreathon and never let them come back

and I've always hated that fucking albino cunt Rumenigge

El Scorchio 11:44 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
Beg your pardon- top sixteen sides in Europe.

Son of Sam 11:43 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
How on earth this monstrosity was ever allowed to evolve, {thinks back fondly of days of EC, ECWC and UEFA cup

El Scorchio 11:42 Thu Mar 24
Re: UEFA considering champions league changes
This is a clear move to try and weed out the 'lesser' teams before they ever get to a group stage, thus guaranteeing more exposure and yet more money for only the top 8 sides in Europe. You can bet your arse the knockout phase would be seeded to ensure the top teams get an easier ride as possible. In fact I expect they'd only have to enter in the final knock out round.

Absolute cunts- both the club and UEFA administrators.





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